Why do you think that this was not covered in the news very much? What are the underlying implications of the heart transplant and Obamacare? Is there any truth that liberal media kept it a low profile so as to not make more issues for Obamacare? Comment on any appeals. DUE 4/17
Keifer Coggin
ReplyDeleteApparently this is a very interesting comic. The person in need of a heart is Dick Cheney, who ironically doesn't have a heart because he had his removed few years back. Now he lives off a pacemaker. The government, being the government, has rules and many regulations that hinder the ability for the prosperity of a group or person. Once again they make things far more complex and unnecessary for the "proper" dispose of miscellaneous objects. Obama care will no doubt take this further then before.
Last month Obama was tweeting on twitter about his health care plan and how the supreme court should pass his bill, while it was being decided. This is informal, unprofessional, and above all partly unconstitutional. He has no right, even as president to have made those actions during the vote on his plan.
As for why this wasn't on the news much is the way the media is, they only want to show one side of the story. This happens from time to time and the bigger ones are harder to hide then the small ones, even still there is power to numbers. The Obama care itself is a plan that I know nothing about, however, if this picture is accurate to what it will be like. Organs of others will be treated as well as nuclear waste, and how the government takes care of that is not very good.
In the cartoon the doctors are removing a more-than-diseased heart from Dick Cheney and depicting the old heart as toxic waste. Cheney's recent heart transplant spurred a bit of controversy, it brought attention to the so-called social injustice that lies within Obamacare. Every year there are on average three-hundred and thirty people that die because there aren't enough hearts available for transplant. People are upset that Dick Cheney (age seventy-one)received his transplant before thousands of younger people. This once again opened the debate over whether or not the availability of heart transplants should be determined by age, or how long the person is on the waiting list. Many believe that younger people are top priority for these organ transplants because it will benefit them much more by extending their life decades, rather than giving new organs to people like Cheney who look like they're about to "call it quits" in a couple years regardless of the surgery. It is likely that liberal media has kind of swept this under the rug to avoid further opposition to Obamacare, why wouldn't they? As for why the heart is so presumably evil, I don't know, maybe the artist is saying that Cheney is selfish for getting a heart transplant when he is basically taking that opportunity from another more youthful person. As for appeals I think it appeals to the readers logos because it is based off of the true event which Cheney received a heart transplant, it's not just speculation. I think the image of the pulsating heart is supposed to appeal to the readers pathos because it's supposed to show how terrible a person he is. To be honest, I'm kind of just guessing on this, I usually have other comments to graze through to get the gist of it. This time I'm kind of just fishing in the dark and hoping to catch a swordfish.
ReplyDeleteNormally, when something major happens to a former President or Vice-president, the news covers it. There hasn't been very much on VP Cheney's heart transplant, however. I believe that this issue wasn't covered extensively so that Obamacare wouldn't come under scrutiny. When Obamacare has so recently been examined by the Supreme Court, it's possible the news has been making efforts to help hide issues within Obamacare.
ReplyDeleteThe implications are that under Obamacare, the rich and powerful will still have top priority and that the individual will suffer. Cheney was 71 when he received his heart transplant. At such an age, some might consider giving the donated heart to a younger and healthier individual. Cheney has money and power though, which suggests that Obamacare will be even more corrupt than our previous form of health care. While I do believe that it is the truth that the media has been purposefully avoiding this subject for Obamacare, I admittedly have no proof.
I see all three appeals in this cartoon. The cartoon questions the ethos of allowing an old man, who could die in a few years, to receive a heart transplant before a younger recipient. Logically, this makes sense. Cheney is almost at the life expectancy of an American male, so it makes sense to give a heart to someone who can benefit longer from that heart. Pathos is also strongly represented here. Those waiting for a heart transplant could easily be angered that Cheney has received a heart and they haven't. Additionally, Cheney's old heart shown is spouting profanities and villainous deeds and is a noxious color. This suggests that perhaps that Cheney is a horrible person and due to this shouldn't have received a new heart because he'll just poison it like he did with his first one.
Kori Weaver
ReplyDeleteI believe that this wasn't covered on the news as much because the government had other things to pretend to worry about; like Obamacare. The implications on Obamacare is that it really is terrible, doctors shouldn't be getting ride of someone's heart until they absolutely have a heart to replace it with.
Yes there is a ton of truth behind it, if they want Obamacare to work why would they ruin it by telling the story of a man who came in to get a heart transplant but no heart to replace his with.
The appeals are ethos and pathos; ethos because it had Dick Cheney in it and it talks about Obamacare. Pathos because people are already against it but now they will be even more against it.
The reason why this isn't covered in the news very much is because Dick Cheney recently received a heart transplant. Heart transplants also require so many implications before these things can happen, and it was probably kept off the news just to keep people from complaining about Obamacare. Also, Cheney received a heart before so many others who have been on the heart transplant lists for a very long time.
ReplyDeleteOf course they kept it a low profile so that they wouldn't create issues for Obamacare. People already don't like Obamacare and all the hype that would come from this one particular heart transplant would create a huge fuss.
It appeals to ethos in the fact that so many people would be affected emotionally by this because of people who have been waiting on the transplant list for a long time and they could die because this man got it before them.
I don't think that it wasn't covered in the news was because its basically old news. Cheney has gone under the knife so many times. The media would be repeating itself with Cheney and his new heart. Also they wouldn't cover this in the news cause of Obamacare. People would be complaining left and right about this matter if was aired. The implications of heart transplant for the elderly, is that they are most likely not to survive. Cheney just has a lot of luck on his side. Cheney was on the list for a heart transplant for 20 months. This all ties in with Obamacare because of the fact that is say its trying to help people with health care. But in turn its really making people hate it. Yes the libral media did keep it on low profile for Obamacare. Cause Obamacare gets all kinds of grief from people. Now that Cheney got a new heart and if it was in the new then Obamacare would forever be hit with hatred. This cartoon appeals to ethos and pathos. Ethos because of the fact of Cheney has went through a lot of heart problems. Also with Obamacare being tied into this call. Pathos I think is a major one. Simply for the fact of heart transplants. Millions of people have been on the list for a new hearts. And its kinda weird that Cheney was able to go ahead of probably thousands. He waited only 20 months but others have waited longer.
ReplyDeleteThe cartoon is depicting the translpant of Cheney. It is implying that Cheney was a terrible person and had a toxic heart. I actually feel like it was talked about on the news quite a bit. On the Daily Show they made a plethora of jokes about Cheney's heart translpant. In fact they said so many of them that I actually got tired of hearing about the subject. I guess that since you're asking why the subject wasn't talked about much and, "Is there any truth that liberal media kept it a low profile so as to not make more issues for Obamacare?" that the correct answer is that the media hasn't talked about the subject because they don't want people to be attacking Obamacare and causing a bunch of issues with the subject. I, truthfully, don't feel like this story would cause any problems at all for Obamacare. Cheney probably has polititians insurance so the tax payers pay for his hospital bills. The only appeal that I see is pathos. I know that it uses pathos because I showed my parents the cartoon to try to get their opinion on it to help me answer the questions and my mom wouldn't stop complaining about how rude this cartoon is to Cheney and it upset her. Like Kyle, I too was fishing in the dark but I am not hoping to catch a measly swordfish, I want to catch a six or eight foot monster goonch like Jeremy Wade caught in River Monsters.
ReplyDeleteTo begin this, i would have to hazard a guess that the reason that this wasnt covered much in the news is that the reprocussions could have made trouble for Obamacare that has been and still is under extreame screutiny by the supreme court. Although everyone had their reasons to cover this up it still wasnt smart of them to try to hide it as much as possible.
ReplyDeleteAlso this cartoons implifications on Obamacare are very clear, "out with the old and in with the new" although will it be that easy to safely remove the old healthcare plan? Unfortunatly only time will tell how much Obamacare will work, and if the old heathcare plan was truly removed. Although to be blatently honest with you there may have been reasons for the media to hide Cheney's transplant from everyone and some may have been to protect Obamacare, but one underlying fact still remains...where is the proof?
I feel that Pathos and Logos are appealed to, Pathos much more than Logos. Pathos is appealed in just about every aspect of this article, there is the medias secrecy, Obamacare v.s. current healthcare and the fact that we dont even know why this was hidden, we can only guess. Logos is appealed when u look at this from a politicians point of view, you see that you are protecting your interests and that is all that matters and so logically we need to let everyone know as little as possible.
I must say, I had to laugh aloud when I saw this. I'm afraid I couldn't help it! The artist so perfectly captured the very essence of the concern many people feel when they think about this country and Obamacare. The appeals to logos and pathos are practically imbedded within each line of the sketch.
ReplyDeleteLately there has been much debate and speculation as to the nature of Obamacare and it's effects on us all. I recently read an article called "World Mourns As Communist Darkness Falls Upon America," by the European Times. Essntially, the article gave Europes perspective on the state of our health care plan and how they feel that it is dangerously close to communist policies. Obamacare is under fire for many things;for not only it's communist-like policies, but it's blatant bias between governmental leaders and citizens.
Now with that said I think it's understandable that the media would want to keep Obamacare under wraps, so as to keep it from scrutiny.The biggest thing the artist seems to be pushing with the cartoon is the fact that government health care is, in many ways, unfair and biased. The artist portrays a scene that all of Mr. LePeau's US History students should be familiar with: special treatment of governmental figures vs. normal citizens. Hundred of heart patients with normal health care are on waiting list for long periods of time, waiting for an organ to become availiable to them. Unfortunately, many of them die from waiting for too long. However, change the situation and make the citizen a governmental figure, just watch how quickly they will get an organ to stay alive.
Overall, I commend the artist for being to bold as to point out this interesting fallacy. I feel that they are trying to help people become more aware, and get more involved in this country because if we don't, no one will.
I think that this event was not displayed in the media because Cheney or his family did not want the whole world to know and be in their business about it. If I were a well-known politician who got an organ transplant, I wouldn't want it talked about in the news either.
ReplyDeleteAs for the implications about Obamacare, there are none! The majority of the healthcare reform law is not in effect yet. The provision about pre-existing conditions won't even take effect until June. Even if the law were in place, there are no provisions in it about organ transplants or who should get them and when. Dick Cheney got a new heart because somebody, or somebody's loved one chose to give that heart specifically to Dick Cheney. Anyone can choose to give their organ to a specific person, and that is what Dick Cheney's donor chose to do. He was not selected early off of a list.
I do not see why Obamacare would be getting any flack, nor why the liberal media would have to hide it. As I said, there are no active provisions that would affect an organ transplant in any way. If there's anything to say about healthcare, it should be about Dick Cheney's personal healthcare plan, because that is the only one involved in this scenario.
The cartoon's appeal to pathos comes from the satirical "getting rid of the old heart will be harder." The cartoonist is implying that Cheney's heart (the emotional one, not just the organ) is diseased and unkind, and that hopefully the fact that he got a transplant will teach him something and help Cheney to become kinder.
Obamacare has been all over the news for months now. You hear many good things about it, and rarely ever do you hear bad things about it. So, when Vice President Dick Cheney needs a heart transplant, of course Obamacare comes to the rescue.
ReplyDeleteThe debate is: what about younger people that have more of a chance to live longer? Why give it to an old man who might not live for much longer? Well, you should be giving it to younger people. There are millions more people who need it, and have been waiting long for one than Dick Cheney. But he got it first. As big as a deal as it sounds, why isn’t there many news stories about the situation? For one, Obama and the government have way too much money. They have power over the country, so they can make certain decisions like that. The second thing is that it shines a bad light on the Obamacare program. Obamacare already is making billions of dollars, and finds it security in the Supreme Court. The government is pushing the issue away like it’s no big deal, and that it is old news.
The cartoon appeals to pathos because I feel the author is sympathetic to those who need a heart transplant and can’t get one soon. He portrays that Dick Cheney has a horrible heart because he didn’t give it to someone younger, who will live longer than he will. I think the author is saying to the audience that it will be hard to get rid of the government’s un-thoughtful heart.
Dick Cheney’s heart transplant wasn’t covered in the news very much most likely because with all the scrutiny Obamacare is facing, this issue would only add to its problems. Cheney was a past vice president and typically anything that happens concerning politicians is all over the news. However, since the issue of his heart transplant might make some question even further the idea of how effective Obamacare would be, the media is trying to stay away from such a touchy subject.
ReplyDeleteThe underlying implications of the heart transplant and Obamacare is that while Obamacare is meant to help all Americans with health insurance, the wealthy will still benefit far more than average Americans. Cheney is an older wealthy man who just received a healthy heart. Many would argue that since he is older that he shouldn’t have received a heart that could’ve gone to a younger and therefore needier patient. This issue is brought to light because he is wealthy and well-known. Did he receive the heart because he is wealthy or because he is deserving of it? With Obamacare’s idea he should be deserving of it, but it doesn’t look as if that is the case. I don’t know if there is any truth in the idea that the liberal media keeping the heart transplant a low profile so as not to make more issues for Obamacare, but it certainly seems that way. After all, Cheney is a seventy-one year old man who received a healthy heart while traditional guidelines say that heart transplant surgery may not be used in patients older than age fifty-five to sixty. Now 44% of all heart transplants are now going to those aged fifty to sixty-four, but still Cheney doesn’t meet the guidelines for a transplant. Less hearts are going to those that are young and more likely to survive with their new hearts.
There is an appeal to ethos as the cartoonist is bringing to light this issue of whether or not it is right for Cheney to have received a new heart. The cartoonist is up to date with the details of heart transplant numbers and how it is unusual for one as old as Cheney to have received a heart transplant. There is an appeal to logos with the simple fact that Cheney is older than a majority of heart transplant patients and that alone seems a little suspicious. I feel that the biggest appeal is to pathos as his old heart is shown as toxic and spouting foul language. This makes the audience question Cheney’s character and therefore whether he deserves to have been given a new heart. Questioning whether he deserves the new heart makes the audience angry especially given the fact that there are plenty of other patients who need healthy hearts each year and many who die because they can’t get a healthy heart in time. The cartoonist attacks the issue from all angles to make the audience see that the heart transplant may not have been deserved and that others have been cheated because of it.
The only reason I feel that the media hasn't been paying this whole ordeal much attention is due to the fact that Cheney himself is involved. The media is too busy turning a really, if you think about it, un-controversial topic into something that is in-turn controversial.
ReplyDeleteIf we look to history for the answers, we see that only those who are in power are always degraded ad oppressed. The people, no matter who they are, always have to invent reasons why the man in charge is wrong, why he doesn't suit or recognize the peoples' needs, and why he isn't suitable to be in a position of power and importance. These people like to appraise themselves because they feel that they represent individuality stating that they "know" something about politics, and freedom of thought when it comes to such issues. Sadly there is no such thing as individuality when it comes to the political playing field, everyone is a slave to the same general pre-assumptions.
If feel that the significance of this "controversy" was directed towards the ethical side of the argument. Is it okay for anybody to silence one for the sake of another? In what circumstances does it make it right to refuse one life because he is aged? I can't say for sure, I'm not an ethicist, but it does trouble me to some extent to think that we would even consider refusing or preventing somebody from living just because he / she has less life to live.
As for Obamacare, I'm mal-informed when it comes to what the bill stands for. All I know is that It implies creating universal health care, and that people object to it because it supposedly has "communism" written all over it.
Appeals were made to Logo's, Pathos, and Ethos. Ethos was established when the political depiction; depicted Dick Cheney. Logos was established through the fact that Cheney had a heart transplant. Pathos was established through underlying ethical issues.
I don't think that Cheney's heart transplant was covered very much in the news, because they didn't want to stir up any more issues. I don't know the details about Cheney's heart transplant, but I'm sure the news didn't feel like it was as big of a deal as everyone is making it out to be. It is not my place, or the news', to say whether or not someone deserves a heart transplant before someone else. The underlying implications connected to Obamacare could be asking questions such as "Would Obamacare cover Cheney's transplant?" It is very possible that the media stayed away from this topic a little because they did not want to shine any more light on Obamacare, or cause any more conflict.
ReplyDeleteThe appeal to pathos come with the beating heart sputtering foul language, and Dick Cheney's grumpy face. You might feel bad for the grumpy old man with a toxic heart. The appeal to logos is exactly what they are saying - the transplant was Emphasizing the words "new" and "old" may also have something to do with the debate over whether the newer heart should have been used on a younger patient. Ethos is established mainly with the fact that you know his information is valid, based on what you have heard in the news.
Cheney's heart transplant was not covered in the media very much because it's not what the average American wants to hear about. News stations these days would rather show politicians trash talk each other and "gossip" more than actual news. Cheney was on the waiting list for 20 months, so there is no doubt that it was his fair turn for a heart, and he didn't steal it from some dying child, as the media would have you believe. I see almost to relation between this and Obama care, but it could be used as an argument for Obama care. Democrats would argue that Cheney's government healthcare treated him fine and he's healthy, while there are still people on the streets without government healthcare dying. It could be possible that the liberal media tried to keep it quiet, trying to let Obama care just slip through unnoticed. There is a strong appeal to pathos in this cartoon because the author tries to pull out hatred for Cheney, implying that his heart was toxic.
ReplyDeleteObamacare- a joke all in itself, has been under much controversy lately. Dick Cheney, or maybe better known as the 46th VP of the United States, at the tender age of 71 desperately needed a heart transplant. Though thousands of younger people were in line to receive an organ donation and transplant as well during this time, Cheney "surprisingly" received his without any wait. The media is in fact, no portraying this story because of the scrutiny Obama's healthcare plan may get. Already being magnified and dissected, the plan may get into even more trouble if publicizing about Cheney's undeserved heart transplant.
ReplyDeletePathos is going to be my appeal on this one. The cartoon shows a diseased heart in the hands of the surgeons. It is ultimately letting Cheney know he has one last shot at doing good and being good, because this could have actually been the end of him. It makes you feel for Cheney.